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TheList 6910


The List 6910     TGB

To All,

Good Tuesday Morning August 6. I hope that you all have a good start to your week . Great classes last night at the school. Well attended and fun and I got to do it all three times. We put three small pools in the outside of the chicken cage and now they will not go out there…stupid chickens…

Warm Regards,

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This day in Naval and Marine Corps History (thanks to NHHC)

Here is a link to the NHHC website: https://www.history.navy.mil/.   Go here to see the director's corner for all 83 H-Grams 

This Day in Navy and Marine Corps History:

August 6

1847 – LtCol S. E. Watson's Marines commence their march on the "Halls of Montezuma" in Mexico.

1862 During the Civil War, CSS Arkansas is destroyed by Confederate Cmdr. Isaac N. Brown to prevent her capture when her engines fail during an encounter with USS Essex.

1917 During World War I, the tank steamer S.S. Campana is captured and sunk by the German submarine U-61 in the Bay of Biscay. Four out of the five Naval Armed Guard ships are captured, along with the ship's captain, and become the first American sailors to be taken prisoner since war is declared on Germany. Chief Gunner's Mate James Delaney receives the Navy Cross for commanding the Armed Guard on this occasion.

1943 Just before midnight, Task Force 31.2 waits at Vella Gulf as four Japanese destroyers carrying soldiers and supplies steam into radar range. Not giving away the position until firing their torpedoes, all four Japanese destroyers were subsequently hit. Bursting into flames, the destroyers, Hagikaze, Arashi, and Kawakaze were sunk. The last one, Shigure, is hit by a dud and escapes into the night.

1944 PV-1 (VB 130), PBMs (VP 204 and 205), along with USAAF B-18 aircraft sink German submarine U 615 off Venezuela.

1988 USS San Juan (SSN 751) is commissioned at New London, Conn. The Los Angeles-class nuclear-powered fast attack submarine is the third to be named after San Juan, Puerto Rico. The boat is assigned to Submarine Group Two.

 

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Today in World History August 6

 

1497    John Cabot returns to England after his first successful journey to the Labrador coast

1863    The CSS Alabama captures the USS Sea Bride near the Cape of Good Hope.

1888    Martha Turner is murdered by an unknown assailant, believed to be Jack the Ripper, in London, England.

1890    William Kemmler becomes the first man to be executed by the electric chair.

1904    The Japanese army in Korea surrounds a Russian army retreating to Manchuria.

1914    Ellen Louise Wilson, the first wife of the twenty-eighth president, Woodrow Wilson, dies of Bright's disease.

1927    A Massachusetts high court hears the final plea from Sacco and Vanzetti, two Italians convicted of murder.

1942    The Soviet city of Voronezh falls to the German army.

1945    Paul Tibbets, the commander of Enola Gay, drops the first atomic bomb on Hiroshima, Japan. It was the second atomic bomb, dropped on Nagasaki, that induced the Japanese to surrender.

1962    Jamaica becomes independent, after 300 years of British rule.

1965    President Lyndon B. Johnson signs the Voting Rights Act, outlawing the literacy test for voting eligibility in the South.

1972    Atlanta Braves' right fielder Hank Aaron hits his 660th and 661st home runs, setting the Major League record for most home runs by a player for a single franchise.

1973    Singer-songwriter Stevie Wonder is in an automobile accident and goes into a four-day coma.

1979    Twelve-year-old Marcus Hooper becomes the youngest person to swim the English Channel.

1981    Argentina's ex-president Isabel Peron is freed from house arrest.

1988    A melee that became known as the Tompkins Square Park Police Riot in New York City leads to NYPD reforms.

1991    Tim Berners-Lee publishes the first-ever website, Info.cern.ch.

1993    Pope John Paul II publishes "Veritatis splendor encyclical," regarding fundamentals of the Catholic Church's role in moral teachings.

1997    Microsoft announces it will invest $150 million in troubled rival Apple Computer, Inc.

2012    New Zealand's Mount Tongariro erupts for the first time since 1897.

 

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OPERATION COMMANDO HUNT Thanks to the Bear  

Skip… For The List for the week beginning Monday, 5 August 2024 and concluding Sunday, 11 August 2024… Bear🇺🇸⚓️🐻

 

OPERATION COMMANDO HUNT (1968-1972)

From the archives of rollingthunderremembered.com post for 4 August 1969… A bit about Bob Scott's book "God Is My Copilot," with a link to Barrett Tillman's superb 2018 short bio: "Colonel Robert Lee Scott, Jr: God's Pilot."… also: remembering the hundreds of heroic Forward Air Controllers who were killed in action in SEAsia…

 

https://www.rollingthunderremembered.com/commando-hunt-and-rolling-thunder-remembered-week-thirty-nine-of-the-hunt-4-10-august-1969/

 

OPERATION COMMANDO HUNT (1968-1972)

 (Please note the eye-watering ongoing revamp of the RTR website by Webmaster/Author Dan Heller, who has inherited the site from originators RADM Bear Taylor, USN, Retired, and Angie Morse, "Mighty Thunder")…

To remind folks that these are from the Vietnam Air Losses site that Micro put together. You click on the url below and can read what happened each day to the aircraft and its crew. .Micro is the one also that goes into the archives and finds these inputs and sends them to me for incorporation in the List. It is a lot of work and our thanks goes out to him for his effort.

From Vietnam Air Losses site for "for 6 August  

6-Aug:  https://www.vietnamairlosses.com/loss.php?id=2971

 

If memory serves me correctly I think that Mike was surrounded by local farmers AND ONE TRIED TO CUT HIS HEAD OFF WITH A SHOVEL UNTIL THE ARMY CAME IIN AND SAVED HIM…skip

Vietnam Air Losses Access Chris Hobson and Dave Lovelady's work at:  https://www.VietnamAirLosses.com.

 

This is a list of all Helicopter Pilots Who Died in the Vietnam War . Listed by last name and has other info  https://www.vhpa.org/KIA/KIAINDEX.HTM

 

 

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Thanks to Billy, Dr. Rich and Barrett

No pictures but it is all here….skip

Good Mornin' — EYE CANDY con't…

The following is reprinted by permission from one of aviation's greatest authors, Barrett Tillman about one of aviation's greatest aviators:

 

Barrett Tillman w/Ed Newberg's 300 Lycoming powered N2S-4  (N-52558) "Stearman"

 

By Barrett Tillman:  "In 1943 General Henry H. Arnold's secretary buzzed his inner sanctum, informing the U.S. Army Air Forces chief, "Colonel Scott is here, sir." "Hap" Arnold, who lived in a frequent boil, replied, "Oh, you mean God's personal pilot?"

Colonel Robert L. Scott Jr., fighter ace and bestselling author of God Is My Co-pilot, was in trouble…again. He had just offered to strafe John L. Lewis, the mine workers' union boss who had continually violated the wartime "no strike" pledge after Pearl Harbor. Called upon Arnold's thick carpet, Scott said, "General, I was only expressing my personal opinion."

Arnold came out of his chair, red-faced, finger jabbing. "Damn it, Scott! When you wear that uniform you don't have a personal opinion!"

At McDill Field in Florida, Scott's younger brother Roland was going through B-26 Ma¬rauder training. His copilot noted the news reports and said, "Well, your brother's never going to be a general now!"

Long after, Bob Scott quipped, "I think that's when General Arnold began looking for a way to send me back to combat where I could get killed."

Combat pilot, bestselling author, big game hunter, versatile chef and incomparable raconteur—Scott was all those and more. Reared in Macon, Ga., he was also among the last cavaliers of the Old South. He made his final flight west from Georgia on February 27, 2006.

Born on April 12, 1908—almost 43 years to the day after Robert E. Lee's surrender—Scott was steeped in Georgia's history and staunchly proud of his Southern roots, but he grew into an unabashed patriot and warrior for the United States. Following graduation from West Point, he received his wings in October 1933 and spent the next eight years preparing for war. Scott survived the brutal winter of 1933-34, when President Franklin D. Roosevelt ordered the Army to fly the mail, resulting in numerous crashes and the death of 13 airmen. Seeking more time with his girlfriend in Georgia, he arranged to swap routes with another pilot, 2nd Lt. Curtis LeMay.

Scott loved to fly as few ever did. He was accused of being a "time hog" and probably never denied it. Somehow, in the Depression-strapped Air Corps, he averaged well over 400 hours per year when airmen were allotted only 48. In his enthusiasm, he earned the enmity of his first commanding officer by using up the squadron's authorized hours in his first month.

Yet there was purpose to Scott's passion. As he explained to his wife, Kitty, "If Paderewski practices the piano 12 hours a day, and a ballerina practices 12 hours, and they are the best, then I have to fly as many hours a day as I can if I'm to be the best fighter pilot."

One way of building up flight time was instructing, and Scott got plenty at Texas' Randolph Field in the 1930s. Remaining in training command, in 1939 he moved to Cal-Aero Academy at Chino, Calif., the largest flying school in the country. During his tours in Texas and California, he logged more than 2,000 hours instructing Army cadets, and he commanded the sprawling Chino base when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor. But he was absolutely determined to get into combat, by any means possible.

Bob Scott was a fighter pilot, with a chip on his shoulder and a gleam in his eye. He wrote of the chips that he and other "pursuiters" carried: "They have to be there—arrogant, egotistical chips mellowed by flying technique and experience and fortified by the motto 'Attack!'"

At age 34, however, Scott was considered too old for combat and had to tell a couple of lies ("And not little white ones, either," he admitted) to get into the war. Among other things, he claimed expertise in the B-17 though he had never flown one. In February 1942, he joined a B-17 task force sent to India to bomb Japan from China. But when that mission fell through, he took the next best job, flying C-47 transports from India to China across the Himalayan "Hump."

 Scott (left) and Brig. Gen. Claire L. Chennault confer as the American Volunteer Group transitions into the 23rd Fighter Group in the summer of 1942. (National Archives)

By the time he finally got into combat in April, Colonel Scott had logged nearly 5,000 hours, likely a pre-combat record among American aces. Having impressed Brig. Gen. Claire Lee Chennault with his ability and enthusiasm, he was chosen to command the brand-new 23rd Fighter Group. He was in his element, flying Curtiss P-40 Warhawks with three squadrons of young hotshots a decade junior to him.

Scott and the other pilots benefited from a handful of Chennault's American Vol¬unteer Group "Flying Tigers" who stayed on to provide the Army fliers with invaluable combat knowledge. One of the 23rd's squadron commanders, AVG ace David Lee "Tex" Hill, described Scott's leadership style: "Bob said, 'Put me on the board for all the big ones until I say different.' I don't think he ever took his name off the board."

Wounded on his first mission as group commander, Scott returned with steel shards in his back, the result of Japanese gunfire hammering his P-40's armor plate. He was escorted to a cave overlooking Kweilin Airfield, where Dr. Fred Manget, an old China hand, tended to him. With no anesthetic, Scott endured the pain as the medical missionary extracted the splinters.

During the prolonged process, Manget's Chinese aide asked Scott, "Colonel, you fly plane, shoot guns, talk radio, all time fight barbarian. You do all these things alone?"

Biting down the pain, Scott snapped back: "Where in hell would anybody else sit? No, I don't need any help. I'm a fighter pilot!"

Dr. Manget interrupted his alcohol swabbing to confront his patient, eye to eye. "You're wrong there, son," he said softly. "You are never alone up there. Not with all the things you came through. You have the greatest copilot in the world even if there is just room for one in that fighter ship."

When he sat up, Scott reeled figuratively and literally. He visualized illuminated figures dancing on a black velvet screen. They resolved themselves into a phrase: "God is my copilot." A title had revealed itself before a book ever took shape. Oddly, however, he didn't include that episode in his famous book.

Scott notched his first victories near Leiyang on July 31, claiming a bomber and a Zero (though it was probably a Ki-43 Oscar army fighter, since no Japanese naval fighters were active in the area). Less than two months later he realized his childhood ambition of becoming an ace when he downed his fifth plane, a Ki-45 Nick at Gia Lam Airport near Hanoi.

One of Scott's most gratifying missions was the Thanksgiving 1942 attack on White Cloud Airdrome at Canton. Among his mentors was Colonel Merian Cooper, the World War I flier and director of King Kong who served on Chennault's staff. Cooper, riding in a B-25 Mitchell, had asked Scott as fighter leader to allow him a shot at an enemy aircraft. Scott was credited with two Ki-97s (actually Ki-27 Nate fighters) to make double ace, chasing one within range of Cooper's bomber. Afterward Cooper expressed gratitude for the opportunity, though Scott kept the truth to himself—he'd barely chased down the Nate before Cooper could shoot. The group commander closed his victory log over Christmas 1942 with Type 97 bombers (Ki-21 Sallys) on the 24th and 26th.

 The colonel helps load his guns for his last sortie from Kunming, China. (National Archives)

Scott's victory score has been reported between 10 and 22. He said that before returning State-side in January 1943, Chennault gave him an affidavit attesting to the higher number, though Scott never claimed more than 13 destroyed. His official tally was reduced to 10 in the 1970s, plus five probables and three damaged. In any case, he left China as the Army Air Forces' leading ace in the China-Burma-India Theater.

Upon his return to the U.S., Scott was recruited into the AAF public relations machine. One result was his smash bestseller about his war experiences, suggested by a publisher friend and "written" in a matter of days. As Scott explained, he dictated the book while holed up in a New York hotel. His dictograph disks were delivered to Scribner's each day for transcribing by "a tin-eared Yankee secretary." Whatever the process, it was dipped in pixie dust. The first printing sold out almost immediately, and Hollywood quickly came knocking. Scott was assigned to help with the filming, flying a P-40N in several sequences, but he was chagrined when Jack Warner said, "Son, forget the manuscript. We'd have paid you as much just for the title!"

Scott approved of casting the dignified Ray¬mond Massey as Chennault, but Warner Bros. wanted a big name for the leading role. When his mother, who didn't approve of alcohol, heard that Humphrey Bogart was being considered, she put her foot down. After all, Bogie had played a saloon keeper in Casablanca. Mr. Warner would just have to find another actor—and he did. Dennis Morgan got the nod.

Scott was embarrassed by the screenplay, especially Rich¬ard Loo's loquacious enemy ace, "Tokyo Joe." The bestselling author fervently wished he could have ducked out of the premiere in Macon.

Co-pilot was one of the few memoirs published during the war that remained in print more or less permanently thereafter. Scott didn't know how many million copies were produced up to the 1980s, but he did appreciate the book's enormous influence. He received copies for signing for decades, from schoolboys to Air Force officers.

Finally relieved of PR duties in 1945, Scott was more than ready to get back to the war. He had been impressed with the latest aviation ordnance, high-velocity aircraft rockets (HVARs), and determined that Chennault needed them.

 Chennault awards Scott the Silver Star on December 20, 1942. (National Archives)

With his Southern charm, Scott could convince almost anybody of anything. Lest anyone doubt it, consider that he coaxed thousands of high-priority weapons from the U.S. Army's bitter rival, the U.S. Navy.

When he finally got approval to return to combat, Scott made friends with a boisterous naval aviator who, if possible, matched the Southerner's colorful personality. Captain "Jumpin' Joe" Clifton was legendary—allegedly the only Navy pilot who did not need a radio for communication. Between them, Captain Clifton and Colonel Scott wrested perhaps 100,000 HVARs from the clutches of Naval Ordnance and arranged to ship them to China. Scott took them from there, touring with an HVAR instruction team that taught Fourteenth Air Force pilots how to use them. Scores of Japanese locomotives were derailed thanks to Scott, Clifton and a rare example of interservice cooperation.

Later based on Okinawa, where he flew some anti-shipping strikes, Scott related his view of the Japanese surrender ceremony in Tokyo Bay on September 2, 1945. He described flying his P-51 Mustang and looking down on the immense gray edifice that was USS Missouri, musing upon the Stars and Stripes flying from its mast. But the Georgia rebel was never far beneath Scott's skin, and that gray morning he cracked open his canopy to unfurl the Confederate Stars and Bars in tribute to his fellow Southerners who had helped achieve victory. They included the maverick Claire Chennault, who had been denied a place among the victors on "Mighty Mo's" deck that morning.

Toward the end of the war, Scott was astonished to learn he owed the U.S. government $25,000 in back taxes—on a colonel's pay! Co-pilot had accumulated tremendous royalties that had not caught up with him, but Uncle Sam's accountants knew the amount to the penny. Undeterred, Scott continued writing. His book production included a dozen titles over a 45-year period.

In his first postwar assignment, Scott took command of Williams Field in Arizona, where he transitioned to jets. One of his "Willie" crew chiefs remembered him as "a colorful and popular commander." Retired Master Sgt. Ken Tomb said, "He always had time to talk with us, unlike some other famous pilots I could mention."

Scott spent the Korean War commanding an F-84 Thunderjet wing in Germany. He would much rather have been chasing MiGs over the Yalu River, but his fertile imagination soon conjured up a plot straight out of a novel. In fact, the storyline—about a plan to hijack a MiG from behind the Iron Curtain—became the basis for his 1955 novel, Look of the Eagle.

 

Scott's daughter, Robin, being an Air Force brat, recognized her father's unusual career track. At one point she asked, "Aren't they ever going to make you a general?" When Scott finally pinned on his star in 1954, he had been a colonel for 13 years.

Following Scott's retirement from the Air Force in 1957, he and Kitty settled in Phoe¬nix, where he embarked on a second career in insurance. Kitty died in 1972, but Scott continued writing and, especially, traveling.

In the 1970s Scott decided to complete a trek that had been interrupted by the war. On his graduation leave from West Point, he had taken a motorcycle trip along Marco Polo's fabled "Silk Road," reaching the western end of the Great Wall of China. From the air he had followed the wall's meandering course several times during the war, but he yearned to travel the length of it on the ground.

 Back in China, Scott sports a red-starred cap as he rides a Bactrian camel at the Great Wall. (Museum of Aviation)

Ignoring repeated rebuffs, Scott wrote 300 letters to officials in the U.S. and China and, at age 72, he fetched himself to the People's Republic. There he completed the nearly 2,000-mile odyssey by various means: on foot, by rail, yak and camel. En route he sustained himself with 1,200 oatmeal raisin cookies he had baked. Later he sent friends a photo of himself astride a Bactrian camel beneath the Great Wall, wearing a smile and a Chairman Mao cap complete with red star.

Chiang Kai-shek would have been appalled.

In the late 1980s Scott returned to his roots in Macon, where he took on his final challenge. Scott, a tremendous fundraiser, devoted the last several years of his life to supporting the Museum of Aviation near Warner Robins Air Force Base. In 1998 a 1,700-square-foot exhibit hall was dedicated to his career. 

Scott also helped carry the Olympic torch through Macon in 1996 on its journey to the Atlanta games. And he jogged rather than walked. After all, he was only 88.

Scott died two months shy of his 98th birthday, breaking the record for the oldest living American ace. (World War I pilot James W. Pearson was 97 years and nine months when he died in 1993.) His decorations included two Silver Stars, three Distinguished Flying Crosses and three Air Medals.

Longtime friends recalled the contradiction that was Bob Scott: the soft Southern accent, the genteel manners, the predator's blue eyes. China veterans mused that the one consolation attending his death was that he was once more with most of those he knew in Asian skies: Claire Chennault, Merian Cooper and so many others.

Robert Lee Scott Jr. is buried in Arlington National Cemetery, within sight of the Custis-Lee Mansion. Surely General Lee would have approved. In the rarified atmosphere far above the contrail level, perhaps he welcomed another Southern gentleman home." 

Author Barrett Tillman met Brig. Gen. Scott in 1966 and corresponded with him for more than 20 years. Scott traveled from Phoenix to Oregon to speak at Tillman's high school graduation ceremony in 1967. For further reading, try Scott's latter-day memoirs: God Is Still My Co-pilot and The Day I Owned the Sky.

 

L-R: Bob Galer, Ken Walsh, Barrett, Dave McCampbell, and Joe Foss. All Medal of Honor aces who contributed to Barrett's Wildcat, Corsair and Hellcat books. Dave wrote the foreword to Hellcat: The F6F in World War II. Ken wrote the foreword to Corsair: The F4U in World War II and Korea (though it includes other combat.) Joe wrote the foreword to Above & Beyond: The Aviation Medals of Honor. Bob contributed to the F4F and F4U volumes. 1991 American Fighter Aces Assn. meeting in Phoenix

 

Here's Billy Walker's own story of meeting Scott.  It was 1954.  I was 13 years old and BSC in love with aviation.

https://captainbillywalker.com/wonderful-wyoming/the-summer-of-1954/

 

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From the archives

Thanks to Dr. Rich…..If your screen does not get blurry then there is something wrong

Thanks to Felix ...

[Sue and I have been there, during our trip to Normandy, and walked among the graves, and seen families honoring their fallen relatives … This will certainly put a lump in your throat, and a lot of pride in your heart … RS]

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz8TIjyfhMc

 

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Thanks to Glenn

carrier lingo

17 Wacky Naval Aviation Terms You Never Knew You Wanted To Know

By

Tyler Rogoway

Our good friend and master F-14 Tomcat Radar Intercept Officer Joe "Smokin" Ruzicka is back to share with us his list of the weirdest terms any Naval Aviator or carrier-borne Naval Flight Officer would know.

1. Ease Guns to Land: As soon as carrier pilots hit the landing area, the engines are at full military power (full power without afterburner). This is because in case the hook misses one of the wires, the plane has enough power to take off and continue flying. Ease Guns To Land is when a pilot pulls the throttles back in an effort to help set the hook for arrestment. This is a big no-no, and results in a stern debrief and probably a mandatory break from flying.

2. "Taxi One Wire" written as "T1W": The ship has four arresting cables (CVN's Reagan, Bush and Ford only have three), with the most aft wire being #1 and the most forward wire being #4. The target wire (what every pilot is trying to hit) is normally #3. While catching any wire can be considered "good", you want to avoid the #1 wire because it is the closest to the back of the ship. Hitting the back of the ship is not recommended. Taking that thought a step further, pilot's who land well before the #1 wire and "taxi into it" are on a very dangerous path.

3. Tower Flower: During the launch and recovery of aircraft, each squadron has to send a Junior Officer (JO) up to the tower (called Pri-Fly, short for Primary Flight Control) to provide the Air Boss and his team with a liaison for their aircraft and any problems (or stupidity) that may arise. Unfortunately for the JO, the Air Boss is not always in the greatest of moods, so communication tends to flow in only one direction. The poor soul on the receiving end of the Air Boss's wrath is the Tower Flower.

4. Greenie Board: Each pass at the carrier is graded by Landing Signal Officers (LSO's). The results for each pilot are displayed using colored dots on a "greenie board" displayed in their respective ready rooms for all to see. The green color represents the highest grade a pilot can receive. A fair is normally yellow and considered an average pass. Red represents the worst and is referred to as a "cut pass" (such as ease guns to land). A Brown dot is used for a pass called a "no grade." This pass is considered safe but certainly below average and affectionately known as a turd. A rule to live by: Avoid the brown.

5. Foc'sle Follies: At the end of each grading period for landings (called a Line Period), the awards for Top Hook and other accomplishments are handed out during Foc'sle Follies. The name comes from the location on the ship where this ceremony takes place (Ships Foc'sle) and where crazy, funny, and sometimes straddling the line of political correctness skits are performed. It is a great camaraderie building event and normally happens before a port call or just prior to the end of a long cruise—so spirits are high.

6. Roll 'em: A Roll 'em is a term used for showing a movie in a squadron's Ready Room. Roll 'ems can be very formal events with set doctrine and mandatory attendance. The events might include a Call Sign Review Board where a new guy is formally blessed with a call sign, a "Stoning" where someone is brought before the crowd and stoned with paper rocks for performing a mildly dumb act that day, and an attempt to guess the movie about to be shown using drawings of the movie subject matter—kind of like charades. Roll 'ems include popcorn, sodas, and as much candy as can be purchased from the ship's store.

7. Mid Rats: Formally known as Midnight Rations. It's one of four meals served on the ship and one of the most popular because the grill is open for orders. If you are a nightly attendee to Mid Rats, you better have a good workout program in place to keep the extra pounds off.

8. Mr. Hands: The ship has closed circuit television that is piped through to nearly every space that has a TV. Two of the most watched channels at night are the PLAT camera—(Pilots Landing Aide Television or PLAT), which shows landings from the perspective of looking aft on the ship and the Mr. Hands channel. Mr. Hands is a real time depiction of traffic in the pattern using small pucks symbolizing aircraft that move around a board. It gets its name from the sailor's hand (sometimes in white gloves) that would pick up the pucks and move them around, placing them at the proper location as aircraft made it around the pattern. Mr. Hands has now been upgraded to a video depiction rather than someone's actual hand, but old-timers still refer to it as Mr. Hands.

9. Dog Machine: If you've ever been to a Golden Corral or similar restaurant where they have soft serve ice cream, then you've seen a dog machine. Soft serve ice cream is known on the ship as "dog" because when it comes out of the machine it has a strong physical resemblance to dog poop. In the wardroom, pilots always know if there is a good batch of dog. If you hear someone exclaim, "That's a good dog!" a rush to the dog machine ensues. I guess pilots don't have much to do.

10. The Smoking Lamp is Lit: This old Navy tradition is slowing fading away as the Navy encourages people to quit using tobacco. While there is no actual lamp, there are announcements made on the 1 MC establishing when folks can go smoke. The smoking lamp is out during refueling, drills, and ordnance loading. Kind of makes sense, I guess.

11. Six Pack: With more than six acres of usable space, the flight deck is divided into different sections with nicknames so people can figure out where your aircraft is parked. One of the most well known areas is the "six pack", which can hold roughly six jets and is located just in front of the island. Tomcats were always parked on the fantail. In the later years of the Tomcat, that area was referred to as "Jurassic Park".

12. Covey Launch: To help two aircraft expeditiously rendezvous sometimes the deck will perform what is called a "covey launch". This is when two aircraft go down the catapults at the same time, typically catapults #1 and #3. It is a well-timed and coordinated event usually performed by a seasoned air department deck crew. Plus, it looks pretty cool!

13. Mark Your Father: This is a term used by aircrew and controllers to identify where an aircraft is in relation to the carrier using a radial and distance from the ship's TACAN. It is normally an imperative statement and goes something like this:

Controller: "101, mark your Father" (In his best Darth Vader voice)

Pilot: "101, marking mom's 230 for 25" (i.e. Southeast of the ship at 25 nautical miles)

The verbiage "marking mom's XXX" is used to clarify the direction as "from the ship to the aircraft" and avoids having the reciprocal direction being interpreted as the position—albeit incorrectly. (The reciprocal would be "Mom bears 050 for 25" but then it just gets confusing and we try to keep directions to one way)

14. Clara: One of the first times coming down the chute at the ship, my pilot told me he was "Clara." I had no idea what he was saying, so I quizzically asked him over the aircraft's internal intercom system "Clara who?"

Clara is the term pilot's use to tell the Landing Signal Officers that they cannot see the ball (the Fresnel lens landing aide). Clara is short for "clarification" or more bluntly "tell me where I am on glideslope, I can't see the ball". The LSO's response after Clara is normally a position call. "Roger, you're high". In my case, the "Clara who" back to my pilot did not help our situation; he still had no idea where we were on glideslope and the LSO's had no idea he was "Clara".

15. Bolter: This is one of the most well known naval aviation terms. If a pass is made at the ship and the aircraft's hook does not engage an arresting wire (typically because of being too high), then it is known a bolter. If the hook touches in the landing area but fails to catch a wire (several things could be a factor for this happening), it is known as a hook skip bolter. A hook skip bolter is shown on the event status board as a "B" with a circle around it, where as a bolter is simply shown as a "B."

16. "Bingo on the Ball" aka "Trick or Treat": During flying operations when there is a usable divert field within 200 nautical miles, the carrier is under what is called "Bingo Ops." This means if an aircraft has a problem or is low on gas and cannot make an arrested landing, the pilot can divert—or bingo—to land at the divert field. When a pilot calls "Bingo on the Ball" (or "Trick or Treat"), it means this is his last pass before he has to bingo back to the pre-determined divert field. The aircraft shows up on the event status board as "BOB." BOB always makes you nervous because you don't want an aircraft to head back to the beach unintentionally.

17. Red Light: Each carrier has a Search and Rescue (SAR) helicopter that launches first before any other aircraft. This is in case an aircraft does go down, a rescue helicopter is in place to pick up the pilot. Before launching, the SAR helo gives a report on how long it can stay airborne and still perform the search and rescue mission. This is known as red light, and is normally given in hours and minutes: "610's red light, 3+15." Thus, 610 has 3 hours and 15 minutes where he can be SAR capable. Let's hope he doesn't have to use it.

 

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I was an instructor in F-8 and F-14 and I have a number of stories and remembrances like these…Skip

From the archives

Thanks to Dan

 

Here are two more stories about scary things that occurred to others during Army Flight School Training, about 50 years ago:

     Story #1:  The flight lines at both Ft. Wolters, TX (Primary helicopter flight training), and Ft. Rucker, AL (Advanced helicopter flight training), were similar.  Rows and rows of helicopters, each on its own, numbered pad.  During briefing, hundreds of students were provided with a weather briefing, safety briefing, then assigned a specific aircraft by tail number and numbered pad.  The students would then go to their assigned aircraft, pre-flight, then start the aircraft and fly to their assigned airfields (miniature airports built in farmers fields), for further briefing and training.  Sounds pretty simple, right?  Well, two of our stalwart students apparently didn't conduct a legitimate pre-flight, because, after they started their aircraft and picked it up to a hover, the aircraft spun like a top, and thrashed itself to death on the ground.  The Accident Board did not have to work very hard to determine the cause of the aircraft accident, because IT DID NOT HAVE A TAIL-ROTOR INSTALLED!  (for the starched-wing guys, that's that little propeller at the aft end of the helicopter that keeps it from spinning in the opposite direction from the main rotor)  Maintenance personnel had just removed it for some unknown maintenance and had not yet written it up in the aircraft logbook.  Needless to say, the two involved student pilots immediately sought new career plans!

 

     Story #2:  On the fixed wing side of the fence, the students were told that if there was a serious problem with their aircraft, land immediately, call in their location, and a flight instructor and mechanic would come to their location.  A student had such an event occur, landed in a farmers field, and called the flight facility.  A very senior Warrant Officer (who probably had his pilot certificate signed by the Wright Brothers), flew out and looked over the agricultural field where the student had landed.  He thought the field was really small, but, if the student landed there, by gosh, so could he!  Upon landing in the obviously small field, he proceeded to run into the trees which surrounded the field.  Upon contacting the student, the Warrant Officer commented on the student landing in the small field.  The student, with a look of incredulity on his face, said "land in this field?  I landed in that field over there, and bounced over the trees into this field!"

 

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 These articles are very familiar to me growing up on USAF bases around the country. The Miramar problem was like this. They built a housing project off the west end of the runway and our departure took us right over it. The folks showed the houses on the weekend and when the new owners moved in and got the Monday morning launch go over their heads they hit the roof. We had to change the departure to do a right jog right after take off to lessen the noise. Later thanks to Field day Fellows we had to put a watch out there and report anyone who did not make the turn. If you ever read what was in the book it was a riot.

Thanks to Ray from the ongoing story going on in the Bubba  List

When I was at NKX Fellows, as CO, required everyone who played tennis to wear white shorts and shirts --- what a jerk!!!.  Also, when I had NKX as CO it was a delight to vacate some of his idiotic rules.  As to noise --- the Blues were there for a show.  A solo on practice day went west after his low pass and rolls and went over Univ. City.  A lady at the end of the runway had her door open in a room in which her dog was lying.  As the Blue went over her house her dog jumped up, released its' bowels and went through the screen door.  My secretary (Gerry who had been there for years) entered my office and wide eyed reported the incident -- I didn't alleviate her fears by laughing so hard I nearly fell out of my chair!!!

Memories !!

Best to all,

Ray Donnelly

The ongoing problem at Whidby Island

On 8/4/22 1:15 PM, Louis Seldon via Thebubbas wrote:

Judge rejects Navy review for more jet flights on Whidbey

"U.S. District Judge Richard Jones' brief decision comes in response to two lawsuits by state Attorney General Bob Ferguson and the Citizens of Ebey's Reserve that challenged a major expansion of the training of noisy, often low-flying Growler jets.

Jones had asked Chief Magistrate J. Richard Creatura to report on the case, and that 38-page document filed in the court in December was a scathing review that concluded the Navy, in a March 2019 environmental impact statement, "turned a blind eye" to data that did not support the goal of increasing Growler jet operations from the air station at Whidbey Island. That violated the National Environmental Policy Act that requires federal agencies to use all practicable means so that humans and nature can exist in harmony and make systematic assessments in their planning and decision-making. "

An unattributable quote from one of the alleged detractors in the article, "It's the kind of noise that makes your insides rumble."  Could it be that the author got it wrong and it was really Mrs. Dennitt from Talledaga Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby??

Richard D Heinrich

On Aug 4, 2022, at 21:29, Pete Batcheller via Thebubbas <thebubbas@thebubbas.org> wrote:

 There's a simple solution.  During the Vietnam era, there was a large lighted billboard board on the main drag outside the gate at NAS Los Alamitos with an image of an A-4 Skyhawk and words that read,  "That Noise you hear is the Sound of Freedom."  It worked.

We need a similar billboard outside the main gate at NAS Whidbey Island with an image of an EA-18G Growler and the words that read:

"That noise you complained about was the sound of Freedom.  Unless residents of Whidbey Island speak up in a vote to allow the needed increase in flight training, this Naval Air Station will be closing.  Plan on looking for new employment, say farewell to Taiwan and start learning Chinese

It that doesn't work to sway public opinion, turn the Ault Field over to the Coast Guard, move the Growlers to NAS Fallon and the ASW assets to Joint Base Elmandorf, AK.

A closing note - Decisions like this should never be left to an appointed judge or Marxist politicians. 

Take care,

V/R, Batch

Gonna show my age… this shit is nothing new. Build a runway… and they will come… and then complain!

My dad was stationed in Pensacola during the mid-fifties. Old Corry Field was still going hot and heavy… primary SNJ base at the time. We had to drive down Warrington Blvd. to go to Mainside… it took us right by Corry. The main runway was on an east/west layout and the east end was perpendicular to Warrington… it was elevated about fifty feet above the highway on a small bluff about a hundred yards from the road. Some idiot bought the land between the road and fence line… and built a house right under the approach end!

Within a year this POS started complaining about the noise (if you ever heard an SNJ prop whine, you'd understand)… but why in the hell any sane person would build there in the first place escapes me. I mean he was right under the approach end of the runway! Now this was in the days before cable television and because the bluff was higher than his roof… he couldn't pick up WEAR or the Mobile station clearly. What did he do… you guessed it… he put up a tall TV antenna on his roof.

And that's when the lawsuits began. The Navy ordered it taken down… he refused. The Navy then took him to court… as the case moved forward… there came a day when an SNJ removed it for him… wiped it out with his landing gear. If I recall correctly, the Navy got a temporary injunction prohibiting him from rebuilding it. In the meantime, the guy goes bat shit crazy and starts putting up huge signs on his property claiming the Navy was endangering his family, keeping them awake at night, making the lives a living hell! He went on and on. It ended up being one of the few times like this; where the local community was 100% behind the Navy! Eventually he moved and the house was torn down… don't know if the Navy bought it or he just skipped town and mortgage?

BTW… if you thought the noise nazis were bad when the Navy had Miramar… ya should have seen the reaction to the Marines stationing CH-53's there! What a hoot! Locals said they were worse than the jets.

From Skip….you can really hear those CH-53s

Shadow

 

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This Day in U S Military History…….6 August

1777 – The Battle of Oriskany was one of the bloodiest battles in the North American theater of the American Revolutionary War and a significant engagement of the Saratoga campaign. An American party trying to relieve the siege of Fort Stanwix was ambushed by a party of Loyalists and allies of several Native American tribes. This was one the few battles in the war in which almost all of the participants were North American: Loyalists and allied Indians fought against Patriots and allied Oneida in the absence of British soldiers. Early in the siege of Fort Stanwix, an American relief force from the Mohawk Valley under General Nicholas Herkimer, numbering around 800 men of the Tryon County militia, and a party of Oneida warriors, approached in an attempt to raise the siege. British commander Barry St. Leger authorized an intercept force consisting of a Hanau Jäger (light infantry) detachment, Sir John Johnson's King's Royal Regiment of New York, Indian allies from the Six Nations, particularly Mohawk and Seneca; and other tribes to the north and west, and Indian Department Rangers, totaling at least 450 men. The Loyalist and Indian force ambushed Herkimer's force in a small valley about six miles (10 km) east of Fort Stanwix, near the present-day village of Oriskany, New York. During the battle, Herkimer was mortally wounded. The battle cost the Patriots approximately 450 casualties, while the Loyalists and Indians lost approximately 150 dead and wounded. The result of the battle remains ambiguous because the apparent Loyalist victory was significantly affected by a sortie from Fort Stanwix in which the Loyalist camps were sacked, spoiling morale among the allied Indians. For the Iroquois nations, the battle marked the beginning of a civil war, as Oneida warriors under Colonel Louis and Han Yerry allied with the American cause and fought against members of other Iroquois nations. There were also internal divisions among the Oneida, some of whom went to Canada as allies of the British. The site is known in oral histories of the Iroquois nations as "A Place of Great Sadness." The site has been designated as a National Historic Landmark and is marked by a battle monument.

Those of you that follow the List Know that the USS Oriskany CVA-34 was sunk in the waters off Pensacola Florida and is also revered site to all those who lost their lives flying from her deck during the Vietnam War. also A Place of great sadness.

1918 – The Second Battle of the Marne ends In disaster for the Germans who sustain losses of 168,000 men and have been pushed back to the line of the Aisne and Vesle Rivers. Following a series of offensives since March, the Germans no longer have the resources to launch attacks. They have suffered huge casualties among their best-trained troops–the storm trooper units– and those who have survived are suffering from increasingly poor morale.

1918 – The first American lightship to be sunk by enemy action, Lightship No. 71, was lost on her Diamond Shoals station. LS 71 had reported by radio the presence of a German submarine which had sunk a passing freighter. That message was intercepted by the submarine U-104, which then located the lightship and, after giving the crew opportunity to abandon ship in the boats, LS 71 was sunk by surface gunfire. The lightship's crew took to their lifeboats and reached shore without injury.

1945 – Hiroshima, Japan, was struck with the uranium bomb, Little Boy, from the B-29 airplane, Enola Gay, piloted by Col. Paul Tibbets of the US Air Force along with 11 other men. The atom bomb killed an estimated 140,000 people in the first use of a nuclear weapon in warfare. Major Thomas Wilson Ferebee (d.2000 at 81) was the bombardier. Richard Nelson (d.2003) was the radio operator. Navy weaponeer, Captain W.S. Parsons, USN, armed the atomic bomb. The bomb is a uranium fission weapon and the yield is in the region of 20,000 tons on TNT. Sixty percent of the city is destroyed in the blast and the firestorm that follows. About 80,000 Japanese are killed. Many more are severely burned and others become ill later, from exposure to radiation. It is not the most devastating bombing attack of the war but the economy of the effort involved in sending only one plane on a mission to destroy a city shows only too well the complete change in military and political thinking which has begun. Meanwhile, other American aircraft raid Tarmuizu, Kagoshima and Miyakonoju.

2011 – A US Chinook was shot down by the Taliban, resulting in 38 deaths (30 Americans and 8 Afghans), no survivors. Among the U.S. deaths were 17 Navy Seals who had been part of the Naval Special Warfare Development Group (DEVGRU). It was the same unit who killed Osama Bin Laden, although none of the deceased partook in the operation.

 

Medal of Honor Citations for Actions Taken This Day

GRIMSHAW, SAMUEL

Rank and organization: Private, Company B, 52d Ohio Infantry. Place and date: At Atlanta. Ga., 6 August 1864. Entered service at: ——. Birth: Jefferson County, Ohio. Date of issue: 5 April 1894. Citation: Saved the lives of some of his comrades, and greatly imperiled his own by picking up and throwing away a lighted shell which had fallen in the midst of the company.

WILSON, JOHN M.

Rank and organization: First Lieutenant, U.S. Engineers. Place and date: At Malvern Hill, Va., 6 August 1862. Entered service at: Washington Territory. Birth: Olympia, Washington Territory. Date of issue: 3 July 1897. Citation: Remained on duty, while suffering from an acute illness and very weak, and participated in the action of that date. A few days previous he had been transferred to a staff corps, but preferred to remain until the close of the campaign, taking part in several actions.

*THOMPSON, WILLIAM.

Rank and organization: Private First Class, U.S. Army, 24th Company M, 24th Infantry Regiment, 25th Infantry Division. Place and date: Near Haman, Korea, 6 August 1950. Entered service at: Bronx, N.Y. Birth: New York, N.Y. G.O. No.: 63, 2 August 1951. Citation: Pfc. Thompson, distinguished himself by conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity above and beyond the call of duty in action against the enemy. While his platoon was reorganizing under cover of darkness, fanatical enemy forces in overwhelming strength launched a surprise attack on the unit. Pfc. Thompson set up his machine gun in the path of the onslaught and swept the enemy with withering fire, pinning them down momentarily thus permitting the remainder of his platoon to withdraw to a more tenable position. Although hit repeatedly by grenade fragments and small-arms fire, he resisted all efforts of his comrades to induce him to withdraw, steadfastly remained at his machine gun and continued to deliver deadly, accurate fire until mortally wounded by an enemy grenade. Pfc. Thompson's dauntless courage and gallant self-sacrifice reflect the highest credit on himself and uphold the esteemed traditions of military service.

 

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AMERICAN AEROSPACE EVENTS for 6 August, FIRSTS, LASTS, AND SIGNIFICANT ACCOMPLISHMENTS. THANKS TO HAROLD "PHIL" MYERS CHIEF HISTORIAN AIR FORCE INTELLIGENCE, SURVEILLANCE, AND RECONNAISSANCE AGENCY

 6 August

1945: Flying his "Enola Gay" B-29 from Tinian Island, Col Paul W. Tibbets, Jr., dropped the atomic bomb "Little Boy" on Hiroshima. (4) (12)

1946: Two radio-controlled B-17s, escorted by control planes, flew 2,174 miles from Hawaii to Muroc Lake, Calif. (24)

1950: KOREAN WAR. Far East Air Forces began nightly visual reconnaissance of enemy supply routes. (28)

1952: KOREAN WAR. Fifth Air Force pilots observed an estimated 250 MiGs, the largest daily total since 1 April. In the major air-to-air battle of the month, 34 F-86s destroyed 6 of 52 MiG-15s. Far East Air Forces organized Detachment 3, 6004th Air Intelligence Service Squadron, to increase effectiveness of evasion and escape techniques by downed airmen. The detachment continued on-going experiments, such as "snatching" downed personnel by especially equipped C47s. It also emphasized aircrew training in emergency procedures, the use of radios and survival equipment, and helicopter rescue procedures. (28)

1953: The N-69A Snark research test vehicle flew its first flight test at Cape Canaveral. In this configuration, the missile's length increased from 50 to 68 feet and weight from 28,000 to 49,000 pounds for greater range and payload capability. (6) Operation BIG SWITCH. Through October, the USAF used C-124, C-54, C-46, and C-47 transports to airlift more than 800 former prisoners of war from Korea to the US. (21)

1954: MACKAY TROPHY. Through 7 August, two 308 BMW B-47s made a 10,000-mile, nonstop round-trip flight from Hunter AFB, Ga., to French Morocco with four KC-97 inflight refuelings. One bomber finished in 24 hours 4 minutes, while the other took 25 hours 23 minutes. The 308th received the Mackay Trophy for this flight. (1)

1958: The USAF issued a requirement for the Minuteman ICBM. (6)

1959: The TM-76 Mace replaced the Matador in USAFE's inventory. (4)

B. Stafford from Gemini VI and Frank Borman and James A. Lovell, Jr. (USN) from Gemini VII won the trophy for the first rendezvous in space of two separate launch vehicles. (5) The first three civilian scientist-astronauts Owen K. Garriott, Edward G. Gibson, and Harrison H. Schmitt received their Air Force pilot wings at Williams AFB. (16) (26)

1971: Vandenberg AFB launched an Air Force Atlas rocket to place nine experiments into three different orbits. (16)

1982: Through 5 September, MAC supported a Multinational Peacekeeping Force in the Sinai Peninsula by sending 9 missions (1 C-141 and 8 commercial) to deliver a 101st Airborne Division battalion from Fort Campbell to Ras Nasrani and then to return a 82d Airborne Division battalion to Fort Bragg.

1987: Aeronautical Systems Division began phase two of the Mission Adaptive Wing tests at Edwards AFB. This phase tested four automated flight control modes: cruise camber control, maneuver camber control, maneuver load control, and maneuver alleviation/gust enhancement. This wing allowed aircraft to achieve a 25-30 percent increase in range and a 25 percent improvement in sustained G-forces.

1991: Through 9 August, MAC units moved 75 tons of blankets and supplies to Shanghai, China, after floods in eastern China caused 1,000 deaths and left over 100,000 homeless. (16) (26)

1998: During a 15-hour flight in Hawaii, the solar-powered Pathfinder-Plus, an upgraded version of the Pathfinder UAV, reached nearly 80,300 feet in altitude, the highest point ever reached by a propeller-driven aircraft. It carried a simulated payload of 68 pounds. (3)

2001: The 93rd Air Control Wing at Robins AFB received the first updated Block 20 E-8C JSTARS production aircraft. The Computer Replacement Program enhancement in the Block 20 aircraft reduced the number of on-board computers from five to two, while increasing processing power and speed. It also had several engineering changes to improve maintainability. (AFNEWS Article 1071, 6 Aug 2001) Following a final sortie by the Lockheed Martin X-35B, the X-32/X-35 Joint Strike Fighter concept demonstration flight test program ended. After 39 sorties (21.5 flight hours), the X-35B flew to Air Force Plant 42 at Palmdale for final disposition. (3)

2003: A B-2 released 80 inert JDAMs as part of a weapon separations test. The AFFTC test program integrated the Smart Bomb Release Assembly (SBRA) into the B-2. (3)

2007: EXERCISE NORTHERN GOSHAWK. Through 11 August, the Distributed Mission Operations Center at Kirtland AFB, N. Mex., implemented a complex, new electronic exercise to bring more "reality" to virtual reality simulations. The five-day exercise also gave Royal Air Force members their first opportunity to connect to the center in a virtual battlespace to engage simulated enemy forces. (AFNEWS, "Info Sharing Allows Realistic Coalition Training, .

 

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