To All
Good Sunday Morning August 6 2023.
I hope that you are all having a great weekend
Regards,
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This Day in Navy and Marine Corps History:
August 6
1847 – LtCol S. E. Watson's Marines commence their march on the "Halls of Montezuma" in Mexico.
1862 During the Civil War, CSS Arkansas is destroyed by Confederate Cmdr. Isaac N. Brown to prevent her capture when her engines fail during an encounter with USS Essex.
1917 During World War I, the tank steamer S.S. Campana is captured and sunk by the German submarine U-61 in the Bay of Biscay. Four out of the five Naval Armed Guard ships are captured, along with the ship's captain, and become the first American sailors to be taken prisoner since war is declared on Germany. Chief Gunner's Mate James Delaney receives the Navy Cross for commanding the Armed Guard on this occasion.
1943 Just before midnight, Task Force 31.2 waits at Vella Gulf as four Japanese destroyers carrying soldiers and supplies steam into radar range. Not giving away the position until firing their torpedoes, all four Japanese destroyers were subsequently hit. Bursting into flames, the destroyers, Hagikaze, Arashi, and Kawakaze were sunk. The last one, Shigure, is hit by a dud and escapes into the night.
1944 PV-1 (VB 130), PBMs (VP 204 and 205), along with USAAF B-18 aircraft sink German submarine U 615 off Venezuela.
1988 USS San Juan (SSN 751) is commissioned at New London, Conn. The Los Angeles-class nuclear-powered fast attack submarine is the third to be named after San Juan, Puerto Rico. The boat is assigned to Submarine Group Two.
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Today in World History August 6
1497 John Cabot returns to England after his first successful journey to the Labrador coast
1863 The CSS Alabama captures the USS Sea Bride near the Cape of Good Hope.
1888 Martha Turner is murdered by an unknown assailant, believed to be Jack the Ripper, in London, England.
1890 William Kemmler becomes the first man to be executed by the electric chair.
1904 The Japanese army in Korea surrounds a Russian army retreating to Manchuria.
1914 Ellen Louise Wilson, the first wife of the twenty-eighth president, Woodrow Wilson, dies of Bright's disease.
1927 A Massachusetts high court hears the final plea from Sacco and Vanzetti, two Italians convicted of murder.
1942 The Soviet city of Voronezh falls to the German army.
1945 Paul Tibbets, the commander of Enola Gay, drops the first atomic bomb on Hiroshima, Japan. It was the second atomic bomb, dropped on Nagasaki, that induced the Japanese to surrender.
1962 Jamaica becomes independent, after 300 years of British rule.
1965 President Lyndon B. Johnson signs the Voting Rights Act, outlawing the literacy test for voting eligibility in the South.
1972 Atlanta Braves' right fielder Hank Aaron hits his 660th and 661st home runs, setting the Major League record for most home runs by a player for a single franchise.
1973 Singer-songwriter Stevie Wonder is in an automobile accident and goes into a four-day coma.
1979 Twelve-year-old Marcus Hooper becomes the youngest person to swim the English Channel.
1981 Argentina's ex-president Isabel Peron is freed from house arrest.
1988 A melee that became known as the Tompkins Square Park Police Riot in New York City leads to NYPD reforms.
1991 Tim Berners-Lee publishes the first-ever website, Info.cern.ch.
1993 Pope John Paul II publishes "Veritatis splendor encyclical," regarding fundamentals of the Catholic Church's role in moral teachings.
1997 Microsoft announces it will invest $150 million in troubled rival Apple Computer, Inc.
2012 New Zealand's Mount Tongariro erupts for the first time since 1897.
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ROLLING THUNDER REMEMBERED Thanks to the Bear … Bear🇺🇸⚓️🐻
OPERATION ROLLING THUNDER (1965-1968)…
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Subject: ROLLING THUNDER REMEMBERED… 4 AUGUST
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OPERATION ROLLING Thunder (1965-1968)
From the archives of rollingthunderremembered.com post for 6 August 1968…
Nixon Closes in on GOP Nomination: "More Dove, Less hawk"…
This following work accounts for every fixed wing loss of the Vietnam War and you can use it to read more about the losses in The Bear's Daily account. Even better it allows you to add your updated information to the work to update for history…skip
Vietnam Air Losses
Access Chris Hobson and Dave Lovelady's work at: https://www.VietnamAirLosses.com.
This is a list of all Helicopter Pilots Who Died in the Vietnam War
. Listed by last name and has other info
https://www.vhpa.org/KIA/KIAINDEX.HTM
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Thanks to Dr. Rich…..If your screen does not get blurry then there is something wrong
Thanks to Felix ...
[Sue and I have been there, during our trip to Normandy, and walked among the graves, and seen families honoring their fallen relatives … This will certainly put a lump in your throat, and a lot of pride in your heart … RS]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz8TIjyfhMc
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Thanks to Interesting Facts
6 Weird Things Your Body Does, Explained
The human body is a beautiful, complicated collection of nerves, blood vessels, muscles, organs, and bones, all working together in intricate processes. Though science has been able to explain many things about how our bodies work, certain anatomical quirks continue to astound us today — common bodily functions included.
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What Are Goosebumps?
Goosebumps, known in medical parlance as piloerection, are caused by contractions in small muscles that are connected to hair follicles. This creates a depression on the skin's surface, resulting in the hairs standing upright. Its name comes from the resemblance of skin to that of a plucked bird.
It is believed that this is an inherited trait from our prehistoric ancestors. They had thicker coats of body hair, which created insulation and kept the body warm when stimulated. While our layer of body hair is too thin to make this insulation process effective, the muscle contraction and increased electrical activity does help to stimulate the body, which is why goosebumps that are caused by the cold go away when you warm up.
Goosebumps are also associated with a wide range of emotional situations. People talk about getting goosebumps when scared, or while listening to rousing songs or watching a high-stakes sporting event. Goosebumps can be triggered by the subconscious release of the testosterone hormone. When high levels of stress occur, whether positive or negative, testosterone is released to help in the fight-or-flight decision-making process. This cues goosebumps, and we start to feel our hair prick up.
Goosebumps may be a little mysterious, but generally speaking, when you feel them cropping up, all you need to do is take a deep breath, relax a little, and maybe put on a sweater.
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What Is Déjà Vu?
Have you ever had a sneaking suspicion that you're experiencing a scenario that's already happened? Then you've dealt with déjà vu. The term is (as you may have guessed) French, and the literal translation means "already seen." But in everyday life, déjà vu refers to the weird feeling you get when you're in a situation that feels like you've already lived it, and are somehow living it again.
Research shows that there's a direct relation between déjà vu and seizures. Specifically, the phenomenon is linked to temporal lobe epilepsy and has been described in people with a known medical history of the condition.
But plenty of people have experienced déjà vu who don't have a history of epilepsy or seizures. In healthy people, déjà vu is believed to be caused by a memory mismatch, where a new experience is stored in long-term memory and completely bypasses the short-term memory. In this scenario, you have that weird sensation that you've been through an experience before when in reality, it's just your brain's memory system having a glitch.
There are also other causes of déjà vu that might have more to do with your daily habits than your medical history. One of the most common causes of déjà vu is being overly distracted. Sleep deprivation is another. If you're walking through life in a perpetual sleep-deprived haze, you might feel like you're reliving experiences when in truth, you're just too exhausted to parse reality from dreams.
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Why Do We Have Wisdom Teeth?
Wisdom teeth are just like any other molar in your mouth. For the first few years of a human's life, they eat only soft foods and have no need for molars to crush and grind. Around the age of six, the first set of molars come in. When a person reaches 12, another set appears. The wisdom teeth are the final set of molars that appear between ages 18 and 21.
Early humans were hunter gatherers who survived on leaves, roots, meat, and nuts — things that required a lot of crushing ability. The more grinding teeth you have, the easier it is to eat tough foods. As humans evolved, they began to cook their food, making it softer and easier to chew. Having three full sets of molars became unnecessary.
Additionally, early humans had larger jaws than we do today — which could support more teeth. Over time, as the need for super-powerful jaws decreased, human jaws got smaller. But the number of teeth stayed the same. That's why today, many people need to get their wisdom teeth removed in order to create more space.
Because wisdom teeth aren't necessary for modern humans, they may someday cease to exist at all.
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Why Do We Sneeze?
The primary purpose of a sneeze is straightforward — sneezes help to remove irritants from the nasal passage. These irritants include dust, dirt, pollen, smoke, or anything else that could possibly get stuck in there. Blowing it all out is the best way your body can clear it.
Sometimes sneezes seem to come in pairs or more. Some people — maybe even you — have a specific number of sneezes that they produce each time. If someone sneezes three times, every time, their sneezes might not be as powerful as a single-sneezer's is, and it requires three attempts to get rid of the irritant.
Sneezing also plays an important role in fighting the spread of bacteria when we're sick. The body's natural reaction to infection is to produce mucus in an effort to trap the bacteria. Once trapped, it's time to get rid of it. Sneezing is the most efficient way to expel mucus from the body. It's also the most efficient way to spread bacteria, so remember to cover your mouth and nose.
Even when there aren't irritants or bacteria present, your nose produces mucus to catch potential irritants before they can get to your lungs. Sometimes, through normal production, the nasal passage gets too full and needs to be reset. Whenever you get a random sneeze that seems to be out of nowhere, it's most likely just to reset your nasal passage.
Sneezing is still something of a mystery, however, as there are some causes that don't seem to make much sense. About one in four people sneeze when they look into a bright light. This is called a photic sneeze reflex, and it's an inherited genetic trait. The leading theory is that a certain stimulation of the optical nerve causes the same sensation in your brain as irritation in the nose, but the true cause still eludes researchers.
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Why Do We Blink?
The average person blinks about 12 times per minute, 10,000 times per day, and 4.2 million times per year. That's a lot of blinking.
The most obvious reason that we blink is to lubricate our eyes. Lubricating tears are constantly being produced in your body and are made up of three layers: the mucous layer so that it adheres to your eye; the aqueous layer, which is a thick layer that hydrates and keeps bacteria away; and the oily layer, which prevents the other two layers, which are predominantly water, from evaporating. Every time you blink, these tears are pulled across the surface of your eye to keep it lubricated and prevent the spread of bacteria.
Additionally, blinking helps clear dust and particles that are continuously getting into your eyes. When your eyes water, the extra fluid helps cleanse and soak up the debris, while the blinking is like a windshield wiper pushing it away.
Blinking also works as a reflex in response to external stimuli. Your eyes can close in 0.1 seconds after stimulus is detected. Sometimes the stimulus is the bright bathroom light at 3 a.m. Sometimes it's a fistful of sand. This is called the corneal reflex, and it is designed to prevent as much debris as possible from entering and damaging your eye.
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Why Do We Yawn?
It was long believed that yawning was a respiratory function. When your body is running low on oxygen, a yawn is triggered to force a deep inhale and exhale. This increases oxygen levels in the bloodstream, and the yawn itself raises your heartbeat to pump the oxygen-rich blood throughout the body.
While this theory is still possible, or is, perhaps, one aspect of yawning, it's not the whole story. Instead of oxygen deprivation, researchers now believe that the primary function of yawning is regulating temperature. Your brain is the most energy-hungry organ in your body. It uses about 40% of your total metabolic energy. All that energy means that your brain tends to run hot and needs some way to cool down. Your brain uses yawning like your computer uses fans.
During a yawn, cold air is brought in through the mouth. The muscles in your jaw and around your skull contract and stretch, which increases blood circulation in the area. The air cools the blood, and the increase in heart rate pumps the cooler blood to your brain. A cooler brain is a more alert brain.
Your body knows how to be efficient. If the surrounding air is cooler, yawning will be more effective. It might sound strange, but studies have shown that people yawn more frequently in cooler temperatures. People yawned 21% more often when the outside air was 70 degrees Fahrenheit versus 98 degrees (body temperature). Similar results were also found with other species of animals.
There are dozens of other triggers associated with yawning, however. Obvious culprits like boredom and drowsiness mean your brain needs to be stimulated, but yawning can also be triggered by other events like anxiety, hunger, or even a change of activity. Any time your brain needs some extra focus, it might trigger a yawn for a refreshing cool down.
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Thanks to Glenn
carrier lingo
17 Wacky Naval Aviation Terms You Never Knew You Wanted To Know
By
Tyler Rogoway
Our good friend and master F-14 Tomcat Radar Intercept Officer Joe "Smokin" Ruzicka is back to share with us his list of the weirdest terms any Naval Aviator or carrier-borne Naval Flight Officer would know.
1. Ease Guns to Land: As soon as carrier pilots hit the landing area, the engines are at full military power (full power without afterburner). This is because in case the hook misses one of the wires, the plane has enough power to take off and continue flying. Ease Guns To Land is when a pilot pulls the throttles back in an effort to help set the hook for arrestment. This is a big no-no, and results in a stern debrief and probably a mandatory break from flying.
2. "Taxi One Wire" written as "T1W": The ship has four arresting cables (CVN's Reagan, Bush and Ford only have three), with the most aft wire being #1 and the most forward wire being #4. The target wire (what every pilot is trying to hit) is normally #3. While catching any wire can be considered "good", you want to avoid the #1 wire because it is the closest to the back of the ship. Hitting the back of the ship is not recommended. Taking that thought a step further, pilot's who land well before the #1 wire and "taxi into it" are on a very dangerous path.
3. Tower Flower: During the launch and recovery of aircraft, each squadron has to send a Junior Officer (JO) up to the tower (called Pri-Fly, short for Primary Flight Control) to provide the Air Boss and his team with a liaison for their aircraft and any problems (or stupidity) that may arise. Unfortunately for the JO, the Air Boss is not always in the greatest of moods, so communication tends to flow in only one direction. The poor soul on the receiving end of the Air Boss's wrath is the Tower Flower.
4. Greenie Board: Each pass at the carrier is graded by Landing Signal Officers (LSO's). The results for each pilot are displayed using colored dots on a "greenie board" displayed in their respective ready rooms for all to see. The green color represents the highest grade a pilot can receive. A fair is normally yellow and considered an average pass. Red represents the worst and is referred to as a "cut pass" (such as ease guns to land). A Brown dot is used for a pass called a "no grade." This pass is considered safe but certainly below average and affectionately known as a turd. A rule to live by: Avoid the brown.
5. Foc'sle Follies: At the end of each grading period for landings (called a Line Period), the awards for Top Hook and other accomplishments are handed out during Foc'sle Follies. The name comes from the location on the ship where this ceremony takes place (Ships Foc'sle) and where crazy, funny, and sometimes straddling the line of political correctness skits are performed. It is a great camaraderie building event and normally happens before a port call or just prior to the end of a long cruise—so spirits are high.
6. Roll 'em: A Roll 'em is a term used for showing a movie in a squadron's Ready Room. Roll 'ems can be very formal events with set doctrine and mandatory attendance. The events might include a Call Sign Review Board where a new guy is formally blessed with a call sign, a "Stoning" where someone is brought before the crowd and stoned with paper rocks for performing a mildly dumb act that day, and an attempt to guess the movie about to be shown using drawings of the movie subject matter—kind of like charades. Roll 'ems include popcorn, sodas, and as much candy as can be purchased from the ship's store.
7. Mid Rats: Formally known as Midnight Rations. It's one of four meals served on the ship and one of the most popular because the grill is open for orders. If you are a nightly attendee to Mid Rats, you better have a good workout program in place to keep the extra pounds off.
8. Mr. Hands: The ship has closed circuit television that is piped through to nearly every space that has a TV. Two of the most watched channels at night are the PLAT camera—(Pilots Landing Aide Television or PLAT), which shows landings from the perspective of looking aft on the ship and the Mr. Hands channel. Mr. Hands is a real time depiction of traffic in the pattern using small pucks symbolizing aircraft that move around a board. It gets its name from the sailor's hand (sometimes in white gloves) that would pick up the pucks and move them around, placing them at the proper location as aircraft made it around the pattern. Mr. Hands has now been upgraded to a video depiction rather than someone's actual hand, but old-timers still refer to it as Mr. Hands.
9. Dog Machine: If you've ever been to a Golden Corral or similar restaurant where they have soft serve ice cream, then you've seen a dog machine. Soft serve ice cream is known on the ship as "dog" because when it comes out of the machine it has a strong physical resemblance to dog poop. In the wardroom, pilots always know if there is a good batch of dog. If you hear someone exclaim, "That's a good dog!" a rush to the dog machine ensues. I guess pilots don't have much to do.
10. The Smoking Lamp is Lit: This old Navy tradition is slowing fading away as the Navy encourages people to quit using tobacco. While there is no actual lamp, there are announcements made on the 1 MC establishing when folks can go smoke. The smoking lamp is out during refueling, drills, and ordnance loading. Kind of makes sense, I guess.
11. Six Pack: With more than six acres of usable space, the flight deck is divided into different sections with nicknames so people can figure out where your aircraft is parked. One of the most well known areas is the "six pack", which can hold roughly six jets and is located just in front of the island. Tomcats were always parked on the fantail. In the later years of the Tomcat, that area was referred to as "Jurassic Park".
12. Covey Launch: To help two aircraft expeditiously rendezvous sometimes the deck will perform what is called a "covey launch". This is when two aircraft go down the catapults at the same time, typically catapults #1 and #3. It is a well-timed and coordinated event usually performed by a seasoned air department deck crew. Plus, it looks pretty cool!
13. Mark Your Father: This is a term used by aircrew and controllers to identify where an aircraft is in relation to the carrier using a radial and distance from the ship's TACAN. It is normally an imperative statement and goes something like this:
Controller: "101, mark your Father" (In his best Darth Vader voice)
Pilot: "101, marking mom's 230 for 25" (i.e. Southeast of the ship at 25 nautical miles)
The verbiage "marking mom's XXX" is used to clarify the direction as "from the ship to the aircraft" and avoids having the reciprocal direction being interpreted as the position—albeit incorrectly. (The reciprocal would be "Mom bears 050 for 25" but then it just gets confusing and we try to keep directions to one way)
14. Clara: One of the first times coming down the chute at the ship, my pilot told me he was "Clara." I had no idea what he was saying, so I quizzically asked him over the aircraft's internal intercom system "Clara who?"
Clara is the term pilot's use to tell the Landing Signal Officers that they cannot see the ball (the Fresnel lens landing aide). Clara is short for "clarification" or more bluntly "tell me where I am on glideslope, I can't see the ball". The LSO's response after Clara is normally a position call. "Roger, you're high". In my case, the "Clara who" back to my pilot did not help our situation; he still had no idea where we were on glideslope and the LSO's had no idea he was "Clara".
15. Bolter: This is one of the most well known naval aviation terms. If a pass is made at the ship and the aircraft's hook does not engage an arresting wire (typically because of being too high), then it is known a bolter. If the hook touches in the landing area but fails to catch a wire (several things could be a factor for this happening), it is known as a hook skip bolter. A hook skip bolter is shown on the event status board as a "B" with a circle around it, where as a bolter is simply shown as a "B."
16. "Bingo on the Ball" aka "Trick or Treat": During flying operations when there is a usable divert field within 200 nautical miles, the carrier is under what is called "Bingo Ops." This means if an aircraft has a problem or is low on gas and cannot make an arrested landing, the pilot can divert—or bingo—to land at the divert field. When a pilot calls "Bingo on the Ball" (or "Trick or Treat"), it means this is his last pass before he has to bingo back to the pre-determined divert field. The aircraft shows up on the event status board as "BOB." BOB always makes you nervous because you don't want an aircraft to head back to the beach unintentionally.
17. Red Light: Each carrier has a Search and Rescue (SAR) helicopter that launches first before any other aircraft. This is in case an aircraft does go down, a rescue helicopter is in place to pick up the pilot. Before launching, the SAR helo gives a report on how long it can stay airborne and still perform the search and rescue mission. This is known as red light, and is normally given in hours and minutes: "610's red light, 3+15." Thus, 610 has 3 hours and 15 minutes where he can be SAR capable. Let's hope he doesn't have to use it.
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Thanks to Dan
Here are two more stories about scary things that occurred to others during Army Flight School Training, about 50 years ago:
Story #1: The flight lines at both Ft. Wolters, TX (Primary helicopter flight training), and Ft. Rucker, AL (Advanced helicopter flight training), were similar. Rows and rows of helicopters, each on its own, numbered pad. During briefing, hundreds of students were provided with a weather briefing, safety briefing, then assigned a specific aircraft by tail number and numbered pad. The students would then go to their assigned aircraft, pre-flight, then start the aircraft and fly to their assigned airfields (miniature airports built in farmers fields), for further briefing and training. Sounds pretty simple, right? Well, two of our stalwart students apparently didn't conduct a legitimate pre-flight, because, after they started their aircraft and picked it up to a hover, the aircraft spun like a top, and thrashed itself to death on the ground. The Accident Board did not have to work very hard to determine the cause of the aircraft accident, because IT DID NOT HAVE A TAIL-ROTOR INSTALLED! (for the starched-wing guys, that's that little propeller at the aft end of the helicopter that keeps it from spinning in the opposite direction from the main rotor) Maintenance personnel had just removed it for some unknown maintenance and had not yet written it up in the aircraft logbook. Needless to say, the two involved student pilots immediately sought new career plans!
Story #2: On the fixed wing side of the fence, the students were told that if there was a serious problem with their aircraft, land immediately, call in their location, and a flight instructor and mechanic would come to their location. A student had such an event occur, landed in a farmers field, and called the flight facility. A very senior Warrant Officer (who probably had his pilot certificate signed by the Wright Brothers), flew out and looked over the agricultural field where the student had landed. He thought the field was really small, but, if the student landed there, by gosh, so could he! Upon landing in the obviously small field, he proceeded to run into the trees which surrounded the field. Upon contacting the student, the Warrant Officer commented on the student landing in the small field. The student, with a look of incredulity on his face, said "land in this field? I landed in that field over there, and bounced over the trees into this field!"
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These articles are very familiar to me growing up on USAF bases around the country. The Miramar problem was like this. They built a housing project off the west end of the runway and our departure took us right over it. The folks showed the houses on the weekend and when the new owners moved in and got the Monday morning launch go over their heads they hit the roof. We had to change the departure to do a right jog right after take off to lessen the noise. Later thanks to Field day Fellows we had to put a watch out there and report anyone who did not make the turn. If you ever read what was in the book it was a riot.
Thanks to Ray from the ongoing story going on in the Bubba List
When I was at NKX Fellows, as CO, required everyone who played tennis to wear white shorts and shirts --- what a jerk!!!. Also, when I had NKX as CO it was a delight to vacate some of his idiotic rules. As to noise --- the Blues were there for a show. A solo on practice day went west after his low pass and rolls and went over Univ. City. A lady at the end of the runway had her door open in a room in which her dog was lying. As the Blue went over her house her dog jumped up, released its' bowels and went through the screen door. My secretary (Gerry who had been there for years) entered my office and wide eyed reported the incident -- I didn't alleviate her fears by laughing so hard I nearly fell out of my chair!!!
Memories !!
Best to all,
Ray Donnelly
The ongoing problem at Whidby Island
On 8/4/22 1:15 PM, Louis Seldon via Thebubbas wrote:
Judge rejects Navy review for more jet flights on Whidbey
"U.S. District Judge Richard Jones' brief decision comes in response to two lawsuits by state Attorney General Bob Ferguson and the Citizens of Ebey's Reserve that challenged a major expansion of the training of noisy, often low-flying Growler jets.
Jones had asked Chief Magistrate J. Richard Creatura to report on the case, and that 38-page document filed in the court in December was a scathing review that concluded the Navy, in a March 2019 environmental impact statement, "turned a blind eye" to data that did not support the goal of increasing Growler jet operations from the air station at Whidbey Island. That violated the National Environmental Policy Act that requires federal agencies to use all practicable means so that humans and nature can exist in harmony and make systematic assessments in their planning and decision-making. "
An unattributable quote from one of the alleged detractors in the article, "It's the kind of noise that makes your insides rumble." Could it be that the author got it wrong and it was really Mrs. Dennitt from Talledaga Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby??
Richard D Heinrich
On Aug 4, 2022, at 21:29, Pete Batcheller via Thebubbas <thebubbas@thebubbas.org> wrote:
There's a simple solution. During the Vietnam era, there was a large lighted billboard board on the main drag outside the gate at NAS Los Alamitos with an image of an A-4 Skyhawk and words that read, "That Noise you hear is the Sound of Freedom." It worked.
We need a similar billboard outside the main gate at NAS Whidbey Island with an image of an EA-18G Growler and the words that read:
"That noise you complained about was the sound of Freedom. Unless residents of Whidbey Island speak up in a vote to allow the needed increase in flight training, this Naval Air Station will be closing. Plan on looking for new employment, say farewell to Taiwan and start learning Chinese
It that doesn't work to sway public opinion, turn the Ault Field over to the Coast Guard, move the Growlers to NAS Fallon and the ASW assets to Joint Base Elmandorf, AK.
A closing note - Decisions like this should never be left to an appointed judge or Marxist politicians.
Take care,
V/R, Batch
Gonna show my age… this shit is nothing new. Build a runway… and they will come… and then complain!
My dad was stationed in Pensacola during the mid-fifties. Old Corry Field was still going hot and heavy… primary SNJ base at the time. We had to drive down Warrington Blvd. to go to Mainside… it took us right by Corry. The main runway was on an east/west layout and the east end was perpendicular to Warrington… it was elevated about fifty feet above the highway on a small bluff about a hundred yards from the road. Some idiot bought the land between the road and fence line… and built a house right under the approach end!
Within a year this POS started complaining about the noise (if you ever heard an SNJ prop whine, you'd understand)… but why in the hell any sane person would build there in the first place escapes me. I mean he was right under the approach end of the runway! Now this was in the days before cable television and because the bluff was higher than his roof… he couldn't pick up WEAR or the Mobile station clearly. What did he do… you guessed it… he put up a tall TV antenna on his roof.
And that's when the lawsuits began. The Navy ordered it taken down… he refused. The Navy then took him to court… as the case moved forward… there came a day when an SNJ removed it for him… wiped it out with his landing gear. If I recall correctly, the Navy got a temporary injunction prohibiting him from rebuilding it. In the meantime, the guy goes bat shit crazy and starts putting up huge signs on his property claiming the Navy was endangering his family, keeping them awake at night, making the lives a living hell! He went on and on. It ended up being one of the few times like this; where the local community was 100% behind the Navy! Eventually he moved and the house was torn down… don't know if the Navy bought it or he just skipped town and mortgage?
BTW… if you thought the noise nazis were bad when the Navy had Miramar… ya should have seen the reaction to the Marines stationing CH-53's there! What a hoot! Locals said they were worse than the jets.
From Skip….you can really hear those CH-53s
Shadow
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From the archives
Thanks to Shadow and Runt. Great stories of flying around SoCal. Miramar,
El Toro and San Clemente. We did them all and El Centro and Yuma too. Each one was unique with its own bit of fun.
San Clememte
Yeah, I had to RON there one night… after we parked, we were directed over to the GCA Shack to wait for transportation. Walked in and was told by a Chief… if you guys want something to eat, there's hot grill out back… abalone and steaks in the fridge… Five bucks all you can eat! BTW… Most folks don't know that San Nick and San Clemente, both had Navy Lodges on the islands. If recall correctly; there was a shuttle flight from Mugu to San Nick to San Clemente, then North Island and a return… I think five days a week. Great opportunity for some family recreation.
Shadow
On Aug 6, 2022, at 12:35 PM, dale lawson <69runt@gmail.com> wrote:
As to San Clemente, most folks don't realize it actually moves at night! I can remember making a full stop and walking down to the beach and picking up abalone. I am sure the bees, birds and bunnies dingleberries have put a halt to that pleasure long ago.
Runt
On Sat, Aug 6, 2022 at 12:15 PM roy stafford wrote:
Denny,
El Toro's patterns presented some challenges for our civilian neighbors. Both the overhead and GCA… plus our landing pattern after the break. Usually Coast Approach would bring us in right over Dana Point for both the overhead and a GCA. After crossing the coast and the point, we flew over the southern edge of Laguna, then Laguna Niguel, followed by "Leisure World"… the huge retirement community across I-5 from Mission Viejo. Past that we'd hit the "Green Belt"… a huge undeveloped parcel of land owned by the Irvine Ranch Corp. It was a great buffer zone in that it was the lowest civilian area we flew over on final or the overhead. It also contained our turning point at the 90 for our standard landing pattern. Long about the late sixties or early seventies… Irvine Ranch leased a huge parcel of land to a company called "Lion Country Safari". True to its' name, it was a drive through, wild animal park, featuring African wild life. They had elephants, rhinos, giraffes, all kinds of small animals like gazelles… and true to its' name… they had lions... lots of lions... courtesy of one sire who seemed to impregnate just about every female lion in the park! I forget his name, but he was very famous at the time. That cat was a certifiable stud! I think it was about a month after it opened that one of our back seaters happened to mention that maybe they should start issuing us our .38's again... because it wouldn't be kosher to have to punch out over the former green belt... survive the ejection… only to get eaten by a lion! How would you widow explain that to friends and family? My husband ejected from his MACH II Fighter, only to be eaten by a lion when he landed in his parachute. Surely someone would say, "He ejected over Africa"? "No, Southern Orange County"... YGTBSM! Well, even though we snuffy's thought it was a good idea… the heavies wouldn't by it… and we remained, unarmed.
If I recall correctly, our VFR landing pattern was 1200 feet. BUT… when we started bouncing for the boat; we dropped down to 600 feet AGL. Did I mention we always bounced at night? Generally, we'd have six planes in the pattern and we'd fly two periods. After six bounces, we'd land no chute... go through the hot refuel pits and do it again. After the first week of bounces… the Command Duty Officer's phone started ringing off the hook with noise complaints… especially from one particular area. Across I-5 from the Northwestern edge of the base… and right under our FCLP pattern's ninety… was a modest community of "Manufactured Housing"… kinda mobile homes with no wheels. They were presented to potential buyers as an alternative to expensive California real estate. And to mollify some astute buyers who questioned the proximity to the air station about noise… they were assured, it was no big deal, "Why they never fly below 2,000 feet, you'll hardly ever hear them"! We found this out when the complaints got so bad, that the Base Commander sent out a PAO and a squadron rep to try to quell the storm.
Anyway… one night I got out of sequence for the first launch, while maintenance worked off a gripe on my plane. By the time I got airborne, the rest of them were landing for the hot pump. I was on my second bounce when the tower called up and told me to make my second bounce a full stop. WTF? I asked why, since I wouldn't get in a full period and they came back and said… "You're taking ground fire… someone is shooting at you"! "You kidding"? "Nope, serious as a heart attack"! I made my full stop.
What had happened… was this poor old geezer had had enough and went full tilt bozo! He went out into his back yard with his deer rifle and tried to shoot me down! His wife called the base and police on her own husband, along with a couple of neighbors. Poor guy ended up getting arrested. Good thing he was a bad shot! I got to thinking about it, we turned right over the guy's flimsy house and usually that called for a small power adjustment in the turn and that caused the turkey feathers to amplify that mournful, woo woo noise, characteristic of the Phantom. Might have been music to us… but this old guy didn't appreciate it at all! Never a dull moment in the Corps!
BTW, our only alternative was San Clemente… or El Centro. Never used the latter and San Clemente sucked! I'd rather land on the boat any night of the week than at San Clemente. Like flying into the Black Hole of Calcutta, with a consistent cross wind and a sink hole on short final. Going out there was like practicing bleeding!
Shadow
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Thanks to Dan
Here are two more stories about scary things that occurred to others during Army Flight School Training, about 50 years ago:
Story #1: The flight lines at both Ft. Wolters, TX (Primary helicopter flight training), and Ft. Rucker, AL (Advanced helicopter flight training), were similar. Rows and rows of helicopters, each on its own, numbered pad. During briefing, hundreds of students were provided with a weather briefing, safety briefing, then assigned a specific aircraft by tail number and numbered pad. The students would then go to their assigned aircraft, pre-flight, then start the aircraft and fly to their assigned airfields (miniature airports built in farmers fields), for further briefing and training. Sounds pretty simple, right? Well, two of our stalwart students apparently didn't conduct a legitimate pre-flight, because, after they started their aircraft and picked it up to a hover, the aircraft spun like a top, and thrashed itself to death on the ground. The Accident Board did not have to work very hard to determine the cause of the aircraft accident, because IT DID NOT HAVE A TAIL-ROTOR INSTALLED! (for the starched-wing guys, that's that little propeller at the aft end of the helicopter that keeps it from spinning in the opposite direction from the main rotor) Maintenance personnel had just removed it for some unknown maintenance and had not yet written it up in the aircraft logbook. Needless to say, the two involved student pilots immediately sought new career plans!
Story #2: On the fixed wing side of the fence, the students were told that if there was a serious problem with their aircraft, land immediately, call in their location, and a flight instructor and mechanic would come to their location. A student had such an event occur, landed in a farmers field, and called the flight facility. A very senior Warrant Officer (who probably had his pilot certificate signed by the Wright Brothers), flew out and looked over the agricultural field where the student had landed. He thought the field was really small, but, if the student landed there, by gosh, so could he! Upon landing in the obviously small field, he proceeded to run into the trees which surrounded the field. Upon contacting the student, the Warrant Officer commented on the student landing in the small field. The student, with a look of incredulity on his face, said "land in this field? I landed in that field over there, and bounced over the trees into this field!"
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This Day in U S Military History…….6 August
1777 – The Battle of Oriskany was one of the bloodiest battles in the North American theater of the American Revolutionary War and a significant engagement of the Saratoga campaign. An American party trying to relieve the siege of Fort Stanwix was ambushed by a party of Loyalists and allies of several Native American tribes. This was one the few battles in the war in which almost all of the participants were North American: Loyalists and allied Indians fought against Patriots and allied Oneida in the absence of British soldiers. Early in the siege of Fort Stanwix, an American relief force from the Mohawk Valley under General Nicholas Herkimer, numbering around 800 men of the Tryon County militia, and a party of Oneida warriors, approached in an attempt to raise the siege. British commander Barry St. Leger authorized an intercept force consisting of a Hanau Jäger (light infantry) detachment, Sir John Johnson's King's Royal Regiment of New York, Indian allies from the Six Nations, particularly Mohawk and Seneca; and other tribes to the north and west, and Indian Department Rangers, totaling at least 450 men. The Loyalist and Indian force ambushed Herkimer's force in a small valley about six miles (10 km) east of Fort Stanwix, near the present-day village of Oriskany, New York. During the battle, Herkimer was mortally wounded. The battle cost the Patriots approximately 450 casualties, while the Loyalists and Indians lost approximately 150 dead and wounded. The result of the battle remains ambiguous because the apparent Loyalist victory was significantly affected by a sortie from Fort Stanwix in which the Loyalist camps were sacked, spoiling morale among the allied Indians. For the Iroquois nations, the battle marked the beginning of a civil war, as Oneida warriors under Colonel Louis and Han Yerry allied with the American cause and fought against members of other Iroquois nations. There were also internal divisions among the Oneida, some of whom went to Canada as allies of the British. The site is known in oral histories of the Iroquois nations as "A Place of Great Sadness." The site has been designated as a National Historic Landmark and is marked by a battle monument.
Those of you that follow the List Know that the USS Oriskany CVA-34 was sunk in the waters off Pensacola Florida and is also revered site to all those who lost their lives flying from her deck during the Vietnam War. also A Place of great sadness.
1918 – The Second Battle of the Marne ends In disaster for the Germans who sustain losses of 168,000 men and have been pushed back to the line of the Aisne and Vesle Rivers. Following a series of offensives since March, the Germans no longer have the resources to launch attacks. They have suffered huge casualties among their best-trained troops–the storm trooper units– and those who have survived are suffering from increasingly poor morale.
1918 – The first American lightship to be sunk by enemy action, Lightship No. 71, was lost on her Diamond Shoals station. LS 71 had reported by radio the presence of a German submarine which had sunk a passing freighter. That message was intercepted by the submarine U-104, which then located the lightship and, after giving the crew opportunity to abandon ship in the boats, LS 71 was sunk by surface gunfire. The lightship's crew took to their lifeboats and reached shore without injury.
1945 – Hiroshima, Japan, was struck with the uranium bomb, Little Boy, from the B-29 airplane, Enola Gay, piloted by Col. Paul Tibbets of the US Air Force along with 11 other men. The atom bomb killed an estimated 140,000 people in the first use of a nuclear weapon in warfare. Major Thomas Wilson Ferebee (d.2000 at 81) was the bombardier. Richard Nelson (d.2003) was the radio operator. Navy weaponeer, Captain W.S. Parsons, USN, armed the atomic bomb. The bomb is a uranium fission weapon and the yield is in the region of 20,000 tons on TNT. Sixty percent of the city is destroyed in the blast and the firestorm that follows. About 80,000 Japanese are killed. Many more are severely burned and others become ill later, from exposure to radiation. It is not the most devastating bombing attack of the war but the economy of the effort involved in sending only one plane on a mission to destroy a city shows only too well the complete change in military and political thinking which has begun. Meanwhile, other American aircraft raid Tarmuizu, Kagoshima and Miyakonoju.
2011 – A US Chinook was shot down by the Taliban, resulting in 38 deaths (30 Americans and 8 Afghans), no survivors. Among the U.S. deaths were 17 Navy Seals who had been part of the Naval Special Warfare Development Group (DEVGRU). It was the same unit who killed Osama Bin Laden, although none of the deceased partook in the operation.
Medal of Honor Citations for Actions Taken This Day
GRIMSHAW, SAMUEL
Rank and organization: Private, Company B, 52d Ohio Infantry. Place and date: At Atlanta. Ga., 6 August 1864. Entered service at: ——. Birth: Jefferson County, Ohio. Date of issue: 5 April 1894. Citation: Saved the lives of some of his comrades, and greatly imperiled his own by picking up and throwing away a lighted shell which had fallen in the midst of the company.
WILSON, JOHN M.
Rank and organization: First Lieutenant, U.S. Engineers. Place and date: At Malvern Hill, Va., 6 August 1862. Entered service at: Washington Territory. Birth: Olympia, Washington Territory. Date of issue: 3 July 1897. Citation: Remained on duty, while suffering from an acute illness and very weak, and participated in the action of that date. A few days previous he had been transferred to a staff corps, but preferred to remain until the close of the campaign, taking part in several actions.
*THOMPSON, WILLIAM.
Rank and organization: Private First Class, U.S. Army, 24th Company M, 24th Infantry Regiment, 25th Infantry Division. Place and date: Near Haman, Korea, 6 August 1950. Entered service at: Bronx, N.Y. Birth: New York, N.Y. G.O. No.: 63, 2 August 1951. Citation: Pfc. Thompson, distinguished himself by conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity above and beyond the call of duty in action against the enemy. While his platoon was reorganizing under cover of darkness, fanatical enemy forces in overwhelming strength launched a surprise attack on the unit. Pfc. Thompson set up his machine gun in the path of the onslaught and swept the enemy with withering fire, pinning them down momentarily thus permitting the remainder of his platoon to withdraw to a more tenable position. Although hit repeatedly by grenade fragments and small-arms fire, he resisted all efforts of his comrades to induce him to withdraw, steadfastly remained at his machine gun and continued to deliver deadly, accurate fire until mortally wounded by an enemy grenade. Pfc. Thompson's dauntless courage and gallant self-sacrifice reflect the highest credit on himself and uphold the esteemed traditions of military service.
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AMERICAN AEROSPACE EVENTS for 6 August, 2021 FIRSTS, LASTS, AND SIGNIFICANT ACCOMPLISHMENTS. THANKS TO HAROLD "PHIL" MYERS CHIEF HISTORIAN AIR FORCE INTELLIGENCE, SURVEILLANCE, AND RECONNAISSANCE AGENCY
6 August
1945: Flying his "Enola Gay" B-29 from Tinian Island, Col Paul W. Tibbets, Jr., dropped the atomic bomb "Little Boy" on Hiroshima. (4) (12)
1946: Two radio-controlled B-17s, escorted by control planes, flew 2,174 miles from Hawaii to Muroc Lake, Calif. (24)
1950: KOREAN WAR. Far East Air Forces began nightly visual reconnaissance of enemy supply routes. (28)
1952: KOREAN WAR. Fifth Air Force pilots observed an estimated 250 MiGs, the largest daily total since 1 April. In the major air-to-air battle of the month, 34 F-86s destroyed 6 of 52 MiG-15s. Far East Air Forces organized Detachment 3, 6004th Air Intelligence Service Squadron, to increase effectiveness of evasion and escape techniques by downed airmen. The detachment continued on-going experiments, such as "snatching" downed personnel by especially equipped C47s. It also emphasized aircrew training in emergency procedures, the use of radios and survival equipment, and helicopter rescue procedures. (28)
1953: The N-69A Snark research test vehicle flew its first flight test at Cape Canaveral. In this configuration, the missile's length increased from 50 to 68 feet and weight from 28,000 to 49,000 pounds for greater range and payload capability. (6) Operation BIG SWITCH. Through October, the USAF used C-124, C-54, C-46, and C-47 transports to airlift more than 800 former prisoners of war from Korea to the US. (21)
1954: MACKAY TROPHY. Through 7 August, two 308 BMW B-47s made a 10,000-mile, nonstop round-trip flight from Hunter AFB, Ga., to French Morocco with four KC-97 inflight refuelings. One bomber finished in 24 hours 4 minutes, while the other took 25 hours 23 minutes. The 308th received the Mackay Trophy for this flight. (1)
1958: The USAF issued a requirement for the Minuteman ICBM. (6)
1959: The TM-76 Mace replaced the Matador in USAFE's inventory. (4)
B. Stafford from Gemini VI and Frank Borman and James A. Lovell, Jr. (USN) from Gemini VII won the trophy for the first rendezvous in space of two separate launch vehicles. (5) The first three civilian scientist-astronauts Owen K. Garriott, Edward G. Gibson, and Harrison H. Schmitt received their Air Force pilot wings at Williams AFB. (16) (26)
1971: Vandenberg AFB launched an Air Force Atlas rocket to place nine experiments into three different orbits. (16)
1982: Through 5 September, MAC supported a Multinational Peacekeeping Force in the Sinai Peninsula by sending 9 missions (1 C-141 and 8 commercial) to deliver a 101st Airborne Division battalion from Fort Campbell to Ras Nasrani and then to return a 82d Airborne Division battalion to Fort Bragg.
1987: Aeronautical Systems Division began phase two of the Mission Adaptive Wing tests at Edwards AFB. This phase tested four automated flight control modes: cruise camber control, maneuver camber control, maneuver load control, and maneuver alleviation/gust enhancement. This wing allowed aircraft to achieve a 25-30 percent increase in range and a 25 percent improvement in sustained G-forces.
1991: Through 9 August, MAC units moved 75 tons of blankets and supplies to Shanghai, China, after floods in eastern China caused 1,000 deaths and left over 100,000 homeless. (16) (26)
1998: During a 15-hour flight in Hawaii, the solar-powered Pathfinder-Plus, an upgraded version of the Pathfinder UAV, reached nearly 80,300 feet in altitude, the highest point ever reached by a propeller-driven aircraft. It carried a simulated payload of 68 pounds. (3)
2001: The 93rd Air Control Wing at Robins AFB received the first updated Block 20 E-8C JSTARS production aircraft. The Computer Replacement Program enhancement in the Block 20 aircraft reduced the number of on-board computers from five to two, while increasing processing power and speed. It also had several engineering changes to improve maintainability. (AFNEWS Article 1071, 6 Aug 2001) Following a final sortie by the Lockheed Martin X-35B, the X-32/X-35 Joint Strike Fighter concept demonstration flight test program ended. After 39 sorties (21.5 flight hours), the X-35B flew to Air Force Plant 42 at Palmdale for final disposition. (3)
2003: A B-2 released 80 inert JDAMs as part of a weapon separations test. The AFFTC test program integrated the Smart Bomb Release Assembly (SBRA) into the B-2. (3)
2007: EXERCISE NORTHERN GOSHAWK. Through 11 August, the Distributed Mission Operations Center at Kirtland AFB, N. Mex., implemented a complex, new electronic exercise to bring more "reality" to virtual reality simulations. The five-day exercise also gave Royal Air Force members their first opportunity to connect to the center in a virtual battlespace to engage simulated enemy forces. (AFNEWS, "Info Sharing Allows Realistic Coalition Training, .
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